Sheriff Richard Mack is a political activist against tyrannical laws and the over policing of America. Howard Lichtman is the founder of the thick red line, an organization for police officers to band together and stand as one against the enforcement of unconstitutional laws. Tim sits down with Richard and Howard at the Red Pill Expo to talk about what role police are supposed to play in society, why many of them don't follow their oath, and what we, the citizens, can do about the situation. Richard is the President of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. The CSPOA is an organization for citizens and law enforcement officers who believe in the constitution. To learn more about the CSPOA please go to

Howard participated in civil disobedience demonstrations in California as part of an effort to liberate parks and beaches from tyrannical lockdowns.  While demonstrating Howard talked with many police officers who told him they didn't even want to enforce the orders they were being given but had to or it could cost them their job. To find out more about Howard's organization please go to 



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